Liquid architecture. It's like jazz - you improvise you work together you play off each other you make something they make something. And I think it's a way of - for me it's a way of trying to understand the city and what might happen in the city.
So for twelve miles I rode with Sherman and we became fast friends. He asked me all manner of questions on the way and I found that he knew my father well and remembered his tragic death in Salt Creek Valley.