Well you can't be trying to achieve success of any kind in this business without accepting that there's going to be a flip side to it.
I'm trying to make a case for those people who don't have a sense of belonging that they should have that there is something really worthwhile in having a sense of belonging and recasting and looking at our modern history.
There is no reason to repeat bad history.
There were various turning points, but the main one at the beginning was...
Look into the heavens and say, “It’s my turn to make history.
