I think the true test of a pop song for me and I've talked to a lot of other writers about this is you take your demo you pop it in your car and you drive down Sunset Blvd. to Santa Monica and that's the Hollywood car test.
I want to make movies that pierce people's hearts and touch them in some way even if it's just for the night while they're in the cinema in that moment I want to bring actual tears to their eyes and goosebumps to their skin.
