We have often been attracted to the story of the other the outcast. And he and I just loved working together so it just kept happening and our relationship is completely bound up with our work. We enjoy each other's art.
He is a very positive captain he is proactive as well as reactive. He is keen to read the game to get in there and he never stops thinking about the game the situation and trying to turn it to his advantage. He has been very good for the game.